The Talmud Immanuel (Jesus Christ and aliens)

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The translation of the Aramaic leaves of the first roll reads as if it is the original writing of the ministry and teachings of Jesus. However, it indicated that his original name was not Jesus, but had been Immanuel. His desire to have it be spelled starting with a "J" symbol is explained in Meier's Foreword to the TJ. The New Testament gospel most closely resembling the Talmud Immanuel is the Gospel of Matthew. It resembles the Talmud Immanuel closely in both wording, where the verses have close parallels, and in order, although each contains much text not contained by the other. Since 1986 I have been analyzing this Talmud and finding several hundred reasons consistent with its verses having been genuine and Matthew's verses having been derived from them.

It is impressive that despite this close similarity between the two texts, the Talmud Immanuel contains its own theme—a no-frills New Age theme in its essence that is absent from Matthew except for traces left behind. The Talmud Immanuel gives its own story in a straightforward manner that is remarkably free from inconsistencies, ambiguities and interruptions in flow of thought, all of which scholars have found characterize Matthew many times over. Comparison of the two texts allows one to deduce which of Immanuel's teachings had to be altered or omitted to conform with the early Christianity that Paul had initiated, and which teachings of Immanuel managed to find their way into the Gospels almost intact. Unfortunately, his teachings that were carried forward into Matthew essentially unaltered are in the minority. Comparison of the two texts leads to consistent reasons why the writer of Matthew made the changes he did.

The spiritual message of the Talmud Immanuel, which is its main thrust, is both enlightening and inspiring for one whose belief system does not oppose certain basics of New Age thought. It is described in an internet article, whose source appeared in Wildfire magazine (vol. 4, No. 2; 1989), which I authored. I discuss the spirituality of the Talmud Immanuel further in the July issue (vol. 15, No. 3) of the J. of Religion and Psychical Research.

Basically, this theme involves discussions of the human spirit, its gradual evolution over innumerable lifetimes, its immortality and its eventual merger with and into the Great Spirit or Universal Consciousness or God, which the Talmud Immanuel refers to as Creation. A related theme teaches the distinction between human-like beings much advanced over us (called guardian angels and celestial sons), and Creation; these beings are of course commonly referred to as extraterrestrials (ETs) or aliens today. Their leader, for whom Immanuel had great respect, is referred to as "Gott" (God) in the German translation but as El here, since the Aramaic word, "El," as in "Immanuel," is what was used to refer to this entity. However, "El" in the Old Testament is translated as "God," which then was the procedure followed by the TJ's translator.

The overarching motif surrounding the Talmud Immanuel is that a certain alien group, who told Immanuel they were from the constellation of the seven stars—the Pleiades, were genetically compatible with us and had been visiting Earth in past scores of thousands of years. Some 10,000 or so years ago they decided to oversee us in a manner that no longer involved themselves directly, and to give us some guidance in a similar indirect manner. This they did by arranging to have a highly advanced soul periodically reincarnate into the human race in the Middle East region, starting with the biblical Enoch. Some 3000 years ago they decided the time was approaching when the key human lifetime of this soul should occur, for the purpose of teaching humanity some spiritual truths. So some 2000 years ago they brought about this incarnation, with that soul reincarnating into the fetus of Immanuel around A.D. 6, not 6 B.C.! His alien procreator saw to it that Immanuel would receive intensive education in his youth, which involved those "lost years of Jesus" spent in India -- a topic receiving very substantial evidential support. Thus Immanuel was an occasional contactee of these aliens. They realized that his teachings would inevitably be distorted, but felt that mankind could only learn through making mistakes and then learning from those mistakes. So they maintained a continued interest over the centuries.

One of the TJ's minor heresies is that the person who betrayed Immanuel to the arresting party and a little later committed suicide was Juda Ihariot, a young Pharisee who had been acquainted with Immanuel and the disciples, and not Judas Iscariot. Judas was Immanuel's designated writer as well as the treasurer for the twelve.

However, the greatest of the TJ's heresies is that he survived the crucifixion, with the help of medical attention inside the tomb during three days and nights. Then, after appearing to his disciples several times, he went on to Damascus where he stayed incognito a couple years, before sending for his mother Mary, brother Judas (Judas Thomas) and disciple Judas Iscariot to join him. Soon thereafter they started on their travels, of which various traditions speak.

The Talmud Immanuel rolls were mostly written by Judas Iscariot who traveled with Immanuel to India, along with Judas-Thomas (Immanuel's brother Judas) and mother Mary, several years after the crucifixion. However, the full story was only completed in India in the early second century, with a transcription of the rolls apparently having been penned there. After Immanuel's eventual death in the Kashmir region in early 2nd century, the rolls and their transcription were carried back to the Palestinian or Anatolian region by Immanuel's oldest son. He evidently released the transcription somewhere in that region, where it eventually found its way into the hands of the writer of Matthew, but he preserved and hid the original Talmud Immanuel rolls within a tomb just south of the Old City of Jerusalem. There they were presumably safeguarded from premature discovery by aliens of the same group until they prompted Meier and Rashid to discover them in 1963.

Early in his Pleiadian contacts Meier asked his primary alien contactor, Semjase, if she could give him a picture of Immanuel. She declined, but told him that if he supplied paper and pencil (so that no alien evidence would be left behind) she would make a sketch from their records. This she did, and gave to Meier; it is shown on the left. He is seen to be young looking but bearded, with almond-shaped eyes, hair parted in the middle, a mustache and lips that are not especially prominent. These same features are seen in the picture on the right, which is an etching on a stone that came from the Burrows cave in Michigan containing various native-American artifacts. The latter did not come to public attention until 1879, and were recently dated to the 4th century A.D. or earlier (Wayne May, "Christ in America?," Ancient American, Vol. 4, No. 26 (Jan./Feb. 1999)). (The face shown in these drawings does not much resemble the one on the Shroud of Turin.) Considering that Immanuel was a contactee whose mission was to teach spiritual truths in many lands, we must keep open the possibility that some time after traveling to northern India and settling down there, Immanuel was taken on extended tours to the Americas and back in his father's UFO. See He Walked the Americas by L. Taylor Hansen (Amherst, WI: Legend Press, 1963), for Native-American legends regarding "Jesus," as influenced by Christianity in the last few centuries. Interestingly, both the stone etching and the legends indicate the man had a full beard, which Native Americans did not grow.

The TJ's text continues well into the narratives of Immanuel's travels in Anatolia, with interesting and practical teachings occupying much of it. Then it ends due to the written translation of the rolls that Meier received from Rashid not having extended past the point where Immanuel and his traveling companions were in a caravan on the road headed east to the land of India. Meier has estimated that only the translation of one of the original four rolls of writing was sent to him before their destruction in 1974. Thus, all has been lost that pertained to Immanuel's long life and ministry in India and Kashmir, except for what Rashid read during his initial reading of the rolls and then related to Meier, and except for what certain other traditions indicate.

What was not lost, however, includes a wealth of extremely valuable material. Among it is confirmation that Immanuel alias Jesus did travel to India and back during the Lost Years of his youth and early manhood. This confirms research on this topic, the most recent of which is that of Ed Martin, author of King of Travelers.

from http://www.proaxis.com/~deardorj/index.htm

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The counter opinion:

Talmud Jmmanuel

This book is the work of "Billy" Eduard Albert Meier who was born in Bülach, Switzerland in 1937. His rather obvious Biblical hoax has all the usual characteristics: no manuscript is available, the text only exists in modern translations, the "find story" is unlikely, and it contains anachronisms and obvious "prophecies after the event". I find it interesting because it's such a typical and predictable late-20th century Biblical hoax.

Meier makes extensive use of conspiracy theories to explain away the "holes in the script" -- see "Hoax Characteristics". Apparently, the conspiracy in this case consists of powerful Jewish and Christian leaders who are able to control police forces in the Middle East, as well as the Israeli army. The Mossad (Israeli intelligence) are part of it, capable of assassinating people anywhere on the Earth without leaving a trace. And so on.

Meier and his followers insist on misspelling "Immanuel" with an initial J instead of an I. The stated reason is that he was commanded to do so by space aliens. In my text, I refer to the manuscript as "TJ".

Find story

The manuscript is said to have been found in 1963 by a "Greek catholic priest" (the terminology is uncertain, it might mean an Orthodox priest, or perhaps a Uniate, i.e. Eastern rite but Roman Catholic allegiance, I don't know which) by the name Rashid. It was found in a hidden cave. Meier claims to have visited the cave with his friend Rashid. The two friends excavated it and found evidence supporting the genuineness of the manuscript. The manuscript consisted of four scrolls written in Aramaic. Rashid translated most of the text, which took until 1974. During the work, Rashid was persecuted by "the church" and Jews who were out to stop the publication of the manuscript. He was forced to flee from Jerusalem to Lebanon. The Palestinian refugee camp where he lived with his family was then subjected to a massive attack by Israeli military forces. The scrolls were taken by the Israelis and probably burned. Rashid found shelter in Bagdad, where he was subsequently assassinated by Israeli agents in 1977.

Some questions are pertinent to this find story:

  1. The location of the cave is not given. Why?
  2. Why are there no records of the alleged excavation, and no information about what finds were made and how (in what scientific way) they supported the genuineness of the alleged scrolls?
  3. Why are we not given any information about Rashid? What was his full name? Where was he ordained? Under which bishop did he serve as a priest? The churches keep records which should verify at least that he existed.
  4. The letter from Rashid speaks of him travelling with his family. Where are they today? They ought to be able to verify some of the information about him.
  5. At which university did Rashid learn Aramaic? Universities keep records, so we should be able to verify not only that Rashid existed but also what subjects he studied.
  6. How did Rashid get to know Eduard Meier? Why did he select Meier and no-one else as his coworker in the manuscript publishing?
  7. Since he had the scrolls for 11 years, why did he not make a single photograph or xerox copy of them?
  8. How did "the church" and the Jews find out about his manuscript find?
  9. How could the "church" or the Jews know that the scrolls contained material that would be damaging to their religions, when not an iota of the material had been published and the only two people who had seen the scrolls were Rashid and Meier?
  10. Is it consistent with what we know of church and Israeli behaviour in other cases when faced with other manuscript finds, that they try to suppress them or murder the finders?

The answer to all these questions is simple and obvious. The cave, Rashid and the scrolls never existed.

 

The manuscript

According to the accompanying information, the document was written by Judas Iskarioth, the only true disciple of Jesus. All the Biblical gospels are fakes, censored to fit in with church dogma. The first of these forgeries is the gospel of Matthew, which is an altered version of Meier's scrolls. In reality, this means that Meier has simply re-written the gospel of St Matthew to fit his own ideas. He borrows freely from other hoaxes and his own special contribution is the information that the events in Jesus' life were orchestrated by aliens from another planet.

The text has a clear anti-Christian leaning, denying most of the central Christian teachings and putting words to that effect in Jesus' mouth. This is even more outspoken in Meier's own commentary to the text, where he expresses abject hate for the Christian religion, accusing churches of being power-hungry, ruthless, loveless, bloodthirsty oppressors. In Meier's opinion, the purpose of the Bible isto hide the real truth about Jesus and fool people into obedience for ecclesiastical authorities, whereas the real Jesus was the son of a human woman and a space alien. Several passages in the text are obviously intended to explain away certain Christian ideas, e.g. the story of Saulus and his conversion which is dealt with at length in this "original gospel" whereas the story actually belongs in the Acts of the Apostles, written by Luke. Other characteristics of the text are also typical for hoaxes, e.g.

  • Jesus travelled to India before his work in Palestine.
  • Jesus did not die on the cross.
  • After fleeing the grave, Jesus again travelled to India.
  • The Essenes are said to be a secret order. (Here, they seek to enroll Jesus who declines to join.)
  • Jesus preaches reincarnation.

There are plenty of anachronisms, e.g.

  • "The laws of nature", a concept formulated in renaissance times.
  • "The horn-bearing kings" denotes the peoples of Scandinavia, later Vikings -- who did not wear horns at all.
  • "Five hundred million" and other large numbers occur; ancient texts never mention such large numbers, anything beyond a hundred thousand or so is "a myriad" or "countless as the stars".
  • The appearance of Muhammed is predicted, by name. He will appear in 500 years from now, says Jesus. This is radically different from all OT and NT prophecies which are never that precise. The prophecies about Jesus, for instance, do not say anything about the time distance from the prophecy to its fulfillment, nor do they give his name or address. Clearly, this is a prophecy after the event.
  • Other prophecies after the event are abundant, e.g. the Second World War and bomb planes.

Any further analysis of the TJ text is quite superfluous. Even a cursory glance reveals that it has all the characteristics of a hoax, and wherever a more in-depth analysis is attempted, the forgery merely becomes more obvious. However, if you want some fun, do look at the next subject too, where retired professor Jim Deardorff tries to prove that TJ is a genuine manuscript, and fails in a rather spectacular way!

from: http://home.swipnet.se/corbie/Fuskwww/talmud.html

 

 

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